{"id":8659,"date":"2025-07-03T08:59:00","date_gmt":"2025-07-03T06:59:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.idro-elettrica.it\/esperto-risponde\/the-river-as-an-inexhaustible-source-of-water-bank-spanning-siphon-a-practical-example\/"},"modified":"2026-07-01T09:47:04","modified_gmt":"2026-07-01T07:47:04","slug":"the-river-as-an-inexhaustible-source-of-water-bank-spanning-siphon-a-practical-example","status":"publish","type":"esperto-risponde","link":"https:\/\/www.idro-elettrica.it\/en\/esperto-risponde\/the-river-as-an-inexhaustible-source-of-water-bank-spanning-siphon-a-practical-example\/","title":{"rendered":"The River as an Inexhaustible Source of Water &#8211; Bank-Spanning Siphon: A Practical Example"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Overbank siphon<\/strong>: a solution for drawing water from a river considered an inexhaustible source, by installing a socket with sedimentation and inlet between the riverbed and the pumps.*<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this response, we clarify the water requirements, the necessity of the intake structure, and the operating principles of the embankment-spanning siphon. The objective is clear: <strong>not to draw water directly from the riverbed<\/strong>, but still to achieve a configuration consistent with the requirements of UNI EN 12845, as referenced in the text. <\/p>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-rank-math-toc-block\" id=\"rank-math-toc\"><h2>Table of Contents<\/h2><nav><ul><li class=\"\"><a href=\"#perche-il-fiume-e-un-caso-delicato-come-alimentazione\">Why the river is a \u201csensitive\u201d issue when it comes to water supply<\/a><\/li><li class=\"\"><a href=\"#il-requisito-sullacqua-cosa-bisogna-rispettare\">Water Requirements: What You Need to Know<\/a><\/li><li class=\"\"><a href=\"#lopera-di-presa-tra-alveo-e-pompe-a-cosa-serve\">The intake structure between the riverbed and the pumps: what is it for?<\/a><\/li><li class=\"\"><a href=\"#configurazioni-non-utilizzabili-vs-soluzione-corretta\">Invalid Configurations vs. Correct Solution<\/a><\/li><li class=\"\"><a href=\"#sifone-a-cavaliere-dargine-quando-si-usa-e-che-cosa-fa\">Bank-mounted siphon: when to use it and what it does<\/a><\/li><li class=\"\"><a href=\"#le-3-parti-del-sifone-schema-logico\">The 3 Parts of a Siphon (Schematic Diagram)<\/a><\/li><li class=\"\"><a href=\"#caduta-motrice-e-perdite-di-carico-come-si-muove-lacqua\">Head Loss and Pressure Drop: How Water \u201cMoves\u201d<\/a><\/li><li class=\"\"><a href=\"#adescamento-perche-serve-una-pompa-ma-non-per-la-portata\">Priming: Why You Need a Pump (But Not for Flow Rate)<\/a><\/li><li class=\"\"><a href=\"#condizione-al-colmo-sezione-c-vincolo-sulla-pressione\">Peak condition (Section C): pressure constraint<\/a><\/li><li class=\"\"><a href=\"#cosa-non-trattiamo-qui-e-cosa-serve-per-completare\">What We Don&#8217;t Cover Here (and What&#8217;s Needed to Complete the Picture)<\/a><\/li><li class=\"\"><a href=\"#conclusione\">Conclusion<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n\n<h2 id=\"perche-il-fiume-e-un-caso-delicato-come-alimentazione\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Why the river is a \u201csensitive\u201d issue when it comes to water supply<\/h2>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Using a river as a water source is an option, but it must be approached with caution. River water, in fact, <strong>typically contains a significant amount of suspended solids<\/strong>\u2014material that can interfere with or damage pump-sets. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That is precisely the practical issue: even when the river is considered an \u201cinexhaustible source,\u201d the plant must be protected from the effects of suspended solids and sediment.<\/p>\n\n<h2 id=\"il-requisito-sullacqua-cosa-bisogna-rispettare\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Water Requirements: What You Need to Know<\/h2>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The text refers to a requirement that is stated very directly:<\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>The water must not contain fibrous substances or other suspended material that could cause deposits inside the system&#8217;s pipes.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This requirement guides the choice of technical solution. If the river water contains solids, the system must be designed to minimize the risk of deposits and blockages along the piping and near the pumps. <\/p>\n\n<h2 id=\"lopera-di-presa-tra-alveo-e-pompe-a-cosa-serve\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">The intake structure between the riverbed and the pumps: what is it for?<\/h2>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For <strong>inexhaustible water sources<\/strong>, the text highlights the need to <strong>install<\/strong> a socket <strong>between the riverbed and the pumps<\/strong>, which must include:<\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>a <strong>sedimentation zone<\/strong><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>an <strong>inlet zone<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The idea is practical: first, a condition is created in which some of the material can settle (settling zone), and then the water is drawn off (Inlet) to the main fire pumps.<\/p>\n\n<h2 id=\"configurazioni-non-utilizzabili-vs-soluzione-corretta\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Invalid Configurations vs. Correct Solution<\/h2>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The text summarizes a key point very clearly:<\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The provisions of the first two figures cited <strong>are NOT applicable<\/strong><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>In short, <strong>I cannot draw firefighting water directly from the riverbed<\/strong>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The solution marked as correct is, however, the one in which:<\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>a <strong>tank<\/strong> with a sedimentation zone and an inlet zone for the main fire pumps<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>is <strong>fed by a siphon across the levee<\/strong><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>which draws water from the river, considered an inexhaustible source<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">According to the text, this <strong>ensures that<\/strong> the requirements <strong>are met exactly<\/strong> as specified.<\/p>\n\n<h2 id=\"sifone-a-cavaliere-dargine-quando-si-usa-e-che-cosa-fa\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Bank-mounted siphon: when to use it and what it does<\/h2>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The embankment-mounted siphon is described as a specific type of river socket. In this case, it is used: <\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>to <strong>climb over the bank<\/strong> of a stream<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>to <strong>draw water<\/strong> from a riverbed<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>when the <strong>free surface<\/strong> is at a higher elevation than that of the watercourse into which the flow rate is to be directed<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The text also cites an example of its use: drawing water from a river to irrigate neighboring areas, filling the network of irrigation canals.<\/p>\n\n<h2 id=\"le-3-parti-del-sifone-schema-logico\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">The 3 Parts of a Siphon (Schematic Diagram)<\/h2>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the text, the siphon is schematically composed of three parts:<\/p>\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Ascending segment<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>at the beginning of which the <strong>entrance section<\/strong> is located<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Horizontal segment<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>where is the section of the pipe with the highest elevation?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>where the socket for the <strong>priming pump<\/strong> is usually located<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Downward section<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>at the end of which the <strong>outlet section<\/strong> is located<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The flow rate is conveyed from section <strong>A (inlet)<\/strong> to section <strong>S (outlet)<\/strong>, passing through section <strong>C<\/strong> at the top of the pipe.<\/p>\n\n<h2 id=\"caduta-motrice-e-perdite-di-carico-come-si-muove-lacqua\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Head Loss and Pressure Drop: How Water \u201cMoves\u201d<\/h2>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The difference between the upstream and downstream levels (as indicated in the text) is used:<\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>as a <strong>drive drop<\/strong><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>to impart a <strong>flow velocity v<\/strong> to the water<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>to overcome <strong>pressure drops<\/strong> (distributed and concentrated)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In practice, once it has started, the motion can continue at a constant rate, according to the report.<\/p>\n\n<h2 id=\"adescamento-perche-serve-una-pompa-ma-non-per-la-portata\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Priming: Why You Need a Pump (But Not for Flow Rate)<\/h2>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this type of system, a pump is required <strong>solely to prime<\/strong> the siphon pipe. The text also explains why: <\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Along its path, the pipe intersects the line of the actual initial load<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>It is therefore necessary <strong>to prime<\/strong> the pipe <strong>beforehand<\/strong> to allow the flow to begin<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The auxiliary air-extraction pump is usually connected, via a suitable socket, to section <strong>C<\/strong> at the top<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is a point that is often misunderstood: the pump mentioned here is not described as a \u201cboost pump,\u201d but as a device designed to enable the siphon to start.<\/p>\n\n<h2 id=\"condizione-al-colmo-sezione-c-vincolo-sulla-pressione\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Peak condition (Section C): pressure constraint<\/h2>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The siphon can only work if:<\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>the <strong>absolute pressure<\/strong> at the highest point (section C)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>is <strong>greater<\/strong> than the vapor pressure <strong>pt<\/strong> corresponding to the water&#8217;s temperature<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is an operational requirement that is clearly stated in the text and must be considered within the overall logic of the solution.<\/p>\n\n<h2 id=\"cosa-non-trattiamo-qui-e-cosa-serve-per-completare\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">What We Don&#8217;t Cover Here (and What&#8217;s Needed to Complete the Picture)<\/h2>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The text specifies that:<\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The <strong>regulatory provisions<\/strong><strong>are not covered by<\/strong> this article<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>A \u201ctheory of the siphon and an example of sizing\u201d is presented, but the final section (formula\/application) is incomplete<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, we&#8217;ll stop here to review the <strong>correct structure of the socket<\/strong> and the <strong>operating principle<\/strong> of the siphon as described.<\/p>\n\n<h2 id=\"conclusione\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Conclusion<\/h2>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you want to use a river as an inexhaustible water source without drawing water from the riverbed, the method described in the text involves a configuration with <strong>a Socket<\/strong> (sedimentation + Inlet) and <strong>a tank fed by a siphon spanning the embankment<\/strong>, with a dedicated priming pump and careful attention to the pressure conditions at the highest point.<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Discover how a river can become an inexhaustible water source for firefighting systems! The UNI EN 12845 standard provides crucial guidelines for ensuring a safe and contamination-free water supply. We\u2019ll take a closer look at how the embankment-spanning siphon works\u2014an innovative solution for crossing embankments and efficiently drawing water. Learn how to design a system that complies with regulations and optimizes the use of water resources. Don\u2019t miss the opportunity to explore this fascinating topic and discover best practices for water management!    <\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":8667,"parent":0,"template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_angie_page":false,"footnotes":"","_members_access_role":[],"_members_access_error":""},"tags":[1067,551,630,561,1068,1069,1066,646],"class_list":["post-8659","esperto-risponde","type-esperto-risponde","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","tag-embankment-mounted-siphon","tag-engineering-insights","tag-inlet","tag-intake-structure","tag-river-catch","tag-sedimentation","tag-siphon","tag-water-supply-2"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.idro-elettrica.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/esperto-risponde\/8659","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.idro-elettrica.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/esperto-risponde"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.idro-elettrica.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/esperto-risponde"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.idro-elettrica.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/esperto-risponde\/8659\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.idro-elettrica.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/8667"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.idro-elettrica.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8659"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.idro-elettrica.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8659"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}